Diskussion:Liste der evangelischen Superintendenten in Österreich
Verschiebung?
BearbeitenFalls keine Einwände bestehen, würde ich die Liste nach Liste der evangelischen Superintendenten in Österreich verschieben. Grund:
- Kleinschreibung von Adjektiven; der Amtstitel lautet Superintendent, nicht Evangelischer Superintendent.
- Es gibt einen Superintendent von Wien, aber nur Superintendenten in Österreich.
-- Funke 13:16, 17. Jan. 2009 (CET)
- Ich habe die Verschiebung aus den genannten Gründen vorgenommen. --Funke 13:05, 18. Jan. 2009 (CET)
Vor 1918, Böhmische, Mährisch, Lemberger etc. Superintendenten
BearbeitenBefore 1918 there were also superintendentures in Bohemia, Moravia/Silesia and Galicia, could you expand this list to name them too? I've created pl:Superintendenci austriaccy, also on Polish and Czech wikipedia articles exist about Austrian Evangelical Church before 1918: cs:Evangelická církev v Rakousku (1781-1918) and pl:Kościół ewangelicki w Austrii w latach 1781-1918. Regards, D T G (Diskussion) 17:29, 9. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- Can you provide some sources we could refer to? Thanks --Funke (Diskussion) 07:06, 10. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- Easily for Moravia-Silesia together with biographies, since being myself a lutheran from Polish part of Teschen Silesia I've gathered a bit of literature about that. There is a German book by Gottlieb Biermann (Historiker) available online here that lists first four superintendentens and senior priests on page 128. I will give more later. Regards, D T G (Diskussion) 14:22, 10. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- All of the superintendentens of Moravia-Silesia lists a book "Z historii Kościoła ewangelickiego na Śląsku Cieszyńskim" [From history of Evangelical Church in Cieszyn Silesia], Katowice, 1992, ISBN: 83-85572-00-7, pages: 139, 170, 183, 189 as follows:
| Name | Amtszeit |
|---|---|
| Johann Traugott Bartelmus | 1784–1809 |
| Johann Georg Schmitz | 1810–1825 |
| Andreas Paulini | 1825–1829 |
| Johann Georg Lumnitzer | 1830–1864 |
| Karl Samuel Schneider | 1864–1882 |
| Theodor Karl Haase | 1882–1909 |
| Andreas Krzywoń | 1909–1911 |
| Andreas Glajcar | 1912–1918 |
- Some superintendentens of Galicia are here: Persönlichkeiten der galiziendeutschen Geschichte 3. Die Superintendenten der evangelischen Kirche. Regards, D T G (Diskussion) 15:29, 10. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- So, according to that site superintendents of Galicia were (in 1920 the it was transformed into a seperate church):
| Name | Amtszeit |
|---|---|
| Joseph Paulini | 1804–1806 |
| Samuel Bredetzky | 1806–1812 |
| Johann Samuel Fuchs | 1813–1817 |
| Friedrich Wilhelm Stockmann | 1817–1831 |
| Adolf Theodor Haase | 1833–1870 |
| Jacob Hönel | 1871–1885 |
| Carl Gustav Zipser | 1886–1896 |
| Herrmann Hans Georg Fritsche | 1897–1924 |
| Theodor Zöckler | 1924–1939 |
Thanks a lot. I’m still doing some further research, also preparing articles on the superintendencies of Asch A. B., Böhmen A. B., Böhmen H. B., Ostböhmen A. B., Westböhmen A. B., Galizien A. B., Mähren und Schlesien A. B. and Mähren H. B. --Funke (Diskussion) 17:53, 15. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- Nice. Perhaps you could use those: Schematismus von 1875 and Die Evangelische Kirche A. u. H. B. in Österreich im Jahr 1913 for some stats. I also tried sifting a bit through Jahrbuch für die Geschichte des Protestantismus in Österreich here for superintendents but without luck. D T G (Diskussion) 20:51, 15. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
Eduard Kneifel. Die Pastoren der Evangelisch-Augsburgischen Kirche in Polen.
Bearbeitenon page 211 is [Johann] Traugott Bartelmus, on 212 Samuel Bredetzky, on 217 Herman Georg Fritsche, on 219 Andreas Glajcar, on 220 Theodor Karl Haase, on 229 Andreas Krzywoń, on 231 Johann Georg Lumnitzer, on 236 Andreas Paulini, on 241 Johann Georg Schmitz and Karl Samuel Schneider, if I didn't miss anyone. Regards, D T G (Diskussion) 15:21, 16. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- I think I managed to get complete lists of all superintendents from various sources; now I’m still writing the articles about the superintendencies, then I’ll publish them as a whole – today or tomorrow perhaps. Thank you again for your cooperation. --Funke (Diskussion) 15:45, 16. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- It's done. Maybe you would like to add some names of superintendents to pl:Superintendenci austriaccy? --Funke (Diskussion) 14:24, 17. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- I'll do! Thanks for expanding the list. BTW, in Evangelische Superintendentur A. B. Mähren und Schlesien there were a few more Pfarrgemeinden, like in Trzynietz established in 1902, Troppau (1871), Freudenthal (1898), Freiwaldau (?), Friedek (1914). D T G (Diskussion) 23:22, 17. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- I had Kolatschek’s book of 1869 (see “Literatur“) for Mähren/Schlesien; not much more, only for the German-speaking parishes in Moravia founded between 1869 and 1918. I’d appreciate your help for Silesia after 1869. I’ll add Troppau, Freudenthal, Freiwaldau and Friedek, I found some sources for them. What about Trzynietz: There’s a protestant church built in 1899, the article Třinec says. Which Pfarrgemeinde did Trzynietz belong to before 1902, was it Teschen? Do you know any citable source for Trzynietz? And I believe we need four more parishes – it seems that there were 25 Pfarrgemeinden in the Seniorat Schlesien in 1914.--Funke (Diskussion) 13:26, 18. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- Well, the schematismus von 1875 has a full list of parishes six years later, but in 1913 Moravia-Silesia had 45 parishes plus Friedek in 1914, so at least 46 in 1918. My books focus mainly on Silesian Seniorat, one of them says that this Seniorat in 1913 had 24 parishes, 3 filials, and had 106 713 "souls", 24% of all lutherans in Austria. D T G (Diskussion) 20:25, 18. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- I’m going to adjust some of the articles (by calling the lists “selection“) und write commentaries on the discussion pages. We should consider it as a work in progress, it’s a wiki after all. :-) --Funke (Diskussion) 13:08, 19. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- Well, the schematismus von 1875 has a full list of parishes six years later, but in 1913 Moravia-Silesia had 45 parishes plus Friedek in 1914, so at least 46 in 1918. My books focus mainly on Silesian Seniorat, one of them says that this Seniorat in 1913 had 24 parishes, 3 filials, and had 106 713 "souls", 24% of all lutherans in Austria. D T G (Diskussion) 20:25, 18. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- I had Kolatschek’s book of 1869 (see “Literatur“) for Mähren/Schlesien; not much more, only for the German-speaking parishes in Moravia founded between 1869 and 1918. I’d appreciate your help for Silesia after 1869. I’ll add Troppau, Freudenthal, Freiwaldau and Friedek, I found some sources for them. What about Trzynietz: There’s a protestant church built in 1899, the article Třinec says. Which Pfarrgemeinde did Trzynietz belong to before 1902, was it Teschen? Do you know any citable source for Trzynietz? And I believe we need four more parishes – it seems that there were 25 Pfarrgemeinden in the Seniorat Schlesien in 1914.--Funke (Diskussion) 13:26, 18. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
- I'll do! Thanks for expanding the list. BTW, in Evangelische Superintendentur A. B. Mähren und Schlesien there were a few more Pfarrgemeinden, like in Trzynietz established in 1902, Troppau (1871), Freudenthal (1898), Freiwaldau (?), Friedek (1914). D T G (Diskussion) 23:22, 17. Okt. 2013 (CEST)
Evangelisch?
BearbeitenGibt es in Österreich keine weitere(n) evangelischen Kirche(n), die ein Superintendenten-Amt haben? -- 87.163.243.187 23:39, 8. Aug. 2015 (CEST)
- Doch! Aber wie so oft, sieht man nur bis zum Horizont - und der ist im gebirgigen Österreich manchmal recht nah. -- 84.154.174.121 17:48, 27. Jan. 2018 (CET)